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In this episode of Curiouser & Curiouser, Mo sits down with Alison Cossette, Founder and CEO of ClariTrace, to talk about why the "black box" excuse is holding the industry back, what control native AI actually means, and why observability and traceability aren't optional anymore for enterprises running agentic systems. š Website: https://alice.io/podcast š§ Spotify: [insert link] Chapters: 05:47 The bowling ball analogy: control native AI explained 09:35 Why guardrails are fences in space 19:13 Agentic AI is relentless and it will find a way 32:34 Three things every enterprise needs to implement now 34:20 Traceability vs observability 51:53 Who's winning: builders or governors? š© Guest: Alison Cossette š« Host: Mo Sadek New episodes every two weeks. Stay curious. #aisecurity #aigovernance #agenticai #enterpriseai #airisks #responsibleai